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An Open Letter to Anti-Vaccine Parents

I’m going to lose some friends over this.

 

Like you, I looked into the scientific evidence surrounding vaccinations with an open mind. I came to the same conclusion as my overprotective mother, my homeopathic-nature-is-best holistic mother-in-law and my skeptic husband – I would go through any lengths to vaccinate my children. This should not really come as ground breaking news, there is nothing edgy about siding with most parents, nearly all the world’s governments, the WHO and the vast majority of medical researchers, scientists and practitioners.

 

Both my children are vaccinated/being vaccinated, I just cannot justify taking the slightest risk with their lives, can you?  If you’re surprised by the Measles and Mumps outbreaks that have recently struck South Africa, The United States (California and Ohio being the most severe), New Zealand, the Phillipines, and the United Kingdom amongst many others – you underestimated the costs of your choice, which you’d be smart to reverse as soon as possible.

 

I understand that you think that you are doing the best for your child, but you are not. Here is why…

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ARGUMENT NO.1 –THE MEASLES-MUMPS-RUBELLA (MMR) VACCINE ABSOLUTELY, SCIENTIFICALLY DOES NOT CAUSE AUTISM.

 

That’s a solid fact and has been proven in study, after study, after study, after study. Science has repeatedly disproven a link between vaccines and autism. Go read about Andrew Wakefield, the asshole that started this crap and how his paper that claimed a link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been withdrawn, and his medical license revoked. Here’s another thing that drives me mad -. Autism and neurodiversity are far from the worst things that could happen to you as a parent or your child, but don’t take my word for it – take Sarah’s. Do you know who else has Autism? Daryl Hannah, Temple Grandin, Courtney Love (I Know, not the best example), Dan Akroyd, Adam Young,  Susan Boyle and Matt Savage – amongst many other successful and ridiculously intelligent people.

An Open Letter to Anti-Vaccine Parents

Jenny McCarthy once said“If you ask a parent of an autistic child if they want the measles or the autism, we will stand in line for the f___ing measles.” I don’t know. If someone offered me a medicine that might make my child typical but came with a 4 in 1,000 chance of an excruciating painful death, I think I’ll pass. Plus, I’m not really one for taking life vs. death medical advice from former Playboy bunnies to begin with.

 

So we have established that it has been scientifically and medically proven that there’s no link between vaccines and autism, but I think it would be great for you to re-evaluate why you think so negatively of Autism. Autism is not a catastrophe. Have you actually ever spoken to someone with Autism? Have you read their blogs? Followed their accomplishmentsDo you know how your ridiculous argument makes them feel?

 

ARGUMENT NO. 2 – YOU CAN DIE FROM MEASLES.

 

Because the public hasn’t needed to worry much about this once-contained threat in quite some time, most people probably don’t know that measles can kill, or leave children permanently disabled. If you need any more convincing – See Roald Dahl’s story about his daughter for a particularly affecting testimony.

 

Measles, a viral respiratory infection, killed over 500,000 children in 2003, more than any other vaccine-preventable disease. The measles death toll in Africa is so high – every minute one child dies – that many mothers don’t give children real names until they have survived the disease. Measles weakens the immune system and renders children very susceptible to fatal complications from diarrhoea, pneumonia and malnutrition. Those that survive may suffer blindness, deafness or brain damage.

 

I know what you are thinking – “If you’re vaccinated, you’re safe, so why do you care what I do?” This is why. 14 of the 32 measles cases in California this year were children who were intentionally not vaccinated for ideological (not medical) reasons. These children fueled an outbreak that put infants too young for the vaccine (like mine), and individuals with compromised immune systems at risk. Which takes me to…

 

ARGUMENT NO. 3 – YOU ARE COMPROMISING HERD IMMUNITY AND PUTTING LIVES AT RISK. 

 

First of all, it is common knowledge that vaccines aren’t always 100% effective, so it is possible for a vaccinated child to still become infected if exposed to a disease. Worse, there are some people who can’t receive vaccinations, because they are immune deficient, fighting cancer or because they are allergic to some component. Those people depend upon herd immunity to protect them. Heard immunity means that your child may be protected from an illness if 90% of the people in your community are vaccinated. By choosing not to vaccinate your children against infectious diseases you are putting not only your own children at risk, but also other people’s children. So many of you are foregoing vaccines now that herd immunity is threatened.  Because of this your unvaccinated child should not be allowed anywhere near a hospital, pediatrician or doctor’s waiting room. You also put pregnant women at risk for miscarriage when you expose them to the disease. You are being a dangerously selfish person. If parents continue to vaccinate, certain diseases will be knocked out in the future. That’s what happened with smallpox – it was eradicated thanks to years of adherence to inoculation.

 

ARGUMENT NO.4 – TO ALL THE “CRUNCHY” PARENTS,OF COURSE VACCINES ARE NOT NATURAL…

 

However, while there is nothing more “natural” than large numbers of children dying in a cesspool of vaccine preventable contagious diseases, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that we should avoid that. Your unvaccinated child is not only endangering immune-compromised children, but also infants too young to be vaccinated along with themselves. Do you realize that not vaccinating your child is safe only as long as the majority does vaccinate (remember we chatted about herd immunity)? Think about that. There is no natural, effective alternative for vaccinations. Some of you seem to believe that several hundred years ago, before GMOs or pesticides existed, there were no communicable diseases. You are wrong. Go read about the history of disease before vaccines, and talk to older people who grew up when polio, measles, and other diseases couldn’t be prevented. Go read about how vaccines are developed, and how they work. Also, on one hand – can you tell me how many diseases homeopathic medicine has eradicated? Thought so.

 

ARGUMENT NO.5 – NO, BREASTFEEDING IS NOT GOING TO KEEP YOUR CHILD SAFE FROM VACCINE PREVENTED ILLNESSES

 

You may have heard that breastfeeding your child passes immunity on to him. But he gets antibodies only for diseases that you’re immune to, and these antibodies only lasts until your baby is 3 to 6 months old. In fact, this is why doctors recommend several vaccines during your baby’s first few months: so he’s well protected by the time he outgrows this natural immunity.

 

ARGUMENT NO.6 – VACCINES ARE SAFE – DESPITE HOW SCARY THE INGREDIENTS SOUND

 

People are afraid of what they don’t understand. If YOU mixed mercury, aluminium phosphate, ammonium sulfate, formaldehyde and viruses and injected it into someone, you will kill them. Why? Because you have no pharmacological experience. Your Google degree does not count. If a scientist in a lab mixed them together – they know how they work. They have medically assessed and peer reviewed evidence and followed strict guidelines to create a safe and effective product. All scientists are not evil, they are not out to get you or poison your child. They are not trying to destroy your natural, vegan lifestyle (I myself try my best to only use natural household, beauty and bath products – especially when it comes to my children).

 

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I’m sorry if this blogpost is a bit harsh, but you Anti-Vaxxers ARE LOUD! The rest of us need to start being loud too, because there’s nothing “crunchy” about a resurgence of polio or small pox. To this day, 1.5 million children die from vaccine-preventable diseases every year. That’s one child every 20 seconds. Let that sink in.

 

Vaccines are different from every other parenting issue in that the choices that parents make affect everyone else as well. Vaccines are everyone’s business. 

 

The battles of the mommy wars – breastfeeding over formula, staying at home with children or going back to work, how we feed or diaper our children, how and where they sleep – all have one thing in common: they are pretty harmless to those around you. On the topic of vaccines, that is not the case.You are risking your child’s’ life along with every other child that he/she comes at contact with. Choosing not to vaccinate is not yet another anodyne trend in personal parenting. It’s not a quirk; it’s a menace.

 

You should not be afraid of the vaccines- you should instead be afraid of what happens without them. Do the research. I have. I side with science..

 

Vaccinate your kids. Please.

 

Click here for a map of vaccine-preventable outbreaks all over the world.

 

xox

Maz

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Maz is a Fashion Designer from Cape Town, South Africa. She is a full-time working mom to two of the most gorgeous, yet tiring kids you will ever lay eyes upon. She maintains her sanity by blogging at Caffeine and Fairydust and rocking from side-to-side in her bath tub at night (with a glass of bubbly - no one ever said you can't be fabulous while having a nervous breakdown). She aims to broaden people's perspectives - and in the process will either make you laugh or p%#@ you off. Don't be shy... come say hi!

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123 COMMENTS

  • Elana

    Awesome blog, I side with science as well. Well said Maz!

  • Michelle

    Every single point is spot on–thank you! I have a 10-year-old boy with autism and have been trying for years to help clear up all the misrepresentations you listed. But to many it’s to no avail. I look at the anti-vaccine sources and see every single fallacy, every baseless assertion, every misstated fact or rash conclusion and want to cry at how people are so easily persuaded towards lies and rhetoric, based mostly in fear and ego. And now, with a friend who has a 4 year-old son with Leukemia who has not been able to be vaccinated, she is worried sick. And I’m angry, because eventual outbreaks are now inevitable and so many people-especially the most fragile and vulnerable-are at risk. I so desperately want to know the cause of everything and be “disease-free,” but we can’t, and we need to be humble about that and take the risks which would provide the most safety and benefits; and the obvious thing to do here (except for the truly medically exempt) is vaccinations. And for those who choose not to, then they need to withdraw together from society so as not to cause others harm who truly did not have a choice.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      I agree. To me the worst is that ultimately those with no choice (like your friends’ child) will suffer worst. Like my husband saiz – if you don’t want to vaccinate your kid, fine… But please withdraw yourself from society and go live on a island with your fellow anti vaccine friends – do not make others suffer for your misguided decisions. We just have to keep trying – if one person can be persuaded, that is one less threat.

  • Just Like Twilight

    Yay! Thank you, I wrote a far less detailed, far less eloquent version earlier today! https://twitter.com/_liketwilight/status/564888158668865536

  • Cynthia Dixon

    I’m with you girl! Probably one of the best arguments I’ve heard against the anti-vaccine movement so far! Whether or not there is anything to the autism-vaccine connection is truly beside the point. Even if there were, I’d still vaccinate my kids every time. Because I would much rather have them be the incredible autistic children that they are than to take a chance of killing them or someone else’s kid! Autism is tough, but I’ll take it over a deadly disease any day of the week!! You rock by the way! Love your blog!

    • caffeineandfairydust

      Thank you! And exactly – I can just imagine how difficult it must be to raise an autistic child – but for f* sake, at least they are alive and probably have more potential than a lot of ‘Typical’ children out there. I just really don’t understand the argument.

  • Brigitta Nel

    Brilliant! Just love this post 🙂

  • Tami Joubert

    Thank you! Awesome post and I couldn’t agree more. What I would like to know is, if a child doesn’t have their vaccines and has autism…. who or what are the parents going to blame then? Anyway, each to their own I guess, but I definitely side with science.

  • Shaney Vijendranath

    Great post! Thank you for saying it!!! I’m tired of this debate.

  • stephpk

    Totally agree, well said!

  • carlagabriellesmith

    Great post!

  • chevslife

    Great post! Sometimes I feel like an ostrich with my head in the sand, but will say that I at least followed one discussion on this whole vaccination issue and well, the only thing I would like to add is that if you do have your child vaccinated (mine has been, the general ones you get at clinics) make sure that the person administering can READ the vile! I was horrified to read about the the 19 newborns who were given the wrong vaccine http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/19-newborns-given-wrong-vaccine-1.1814323#.VNnsoC7NOts

  • Emily

    What an uneducated, fear-mongering pile of rubbish. Please don’t bring your vac disease-shedding kids around one or any others. They are placing the immuno-compromised at risk!!

  • Michelle

    This Post has absolutely no factual basis. It’s shocking that you are potentially the cause of more children contracting neurological (and other) disorders from toxin laced vaccinations. To try and prevent illnesses that aren’t prevented by vaccinations anyway.
    Ignorance. How do you sleep at night?

    • caffeineandfairydust

      1. There is plenty factual basis – when you click on the red, highlighted words you will be directed to many case studies, from reputable sources like:
      children.org
      Public Health Agency of Canada
      Public Health England
      The CDPH
      National Institute For Communicable Diseases
      The World Health Organization
      The International Institution Of Health
      The US National Medical Library
      PLOS
      Autism Speaks
      SBM Institute of Science Based Medicine
      Numerous scientists and healthcare professionals
      Can you present me with your FACTS? Hard, scientific, medically proven facts?

      2. It is shocking that you and your peers are the force behind bringing back diseases that can KILL people – and shocking that you are uneducated enough to honestly believe that Autism and other neurological disorders are caused by vaccinations, after it has been disproven time and time again. It is also shocking how horrible you people are towards autistic people.

      3. To try and prevent illnesses that aren’t prevented by vaccinations anyway – Smallpox?

      Listen, this is your opinion, I just can’t believe that you will take that kind of risk with your child… it shocks me to my core.

      • Michelle

        Have you had a look at the adverse reactions listed in the tripedia insert? AUTISM is stated there.
        Let me tell you, my child got whooping cough- she had been vaccinated. My child got measles, she had been vaccinated. Measles at 9 months and the MMR.
        After her MMR she started experiencing seizures.
        Does it still shock you to,your core that I refuse to vaccinate my child any longer?
        My only regret is that I followed the crowd and believed all that was told to me before I had to experience one of the most scariest moments of my life.
        On the inserts it states to not vaccinate if you are immune compromised. Or if you have had a reaction to any other vaccination. Get your facts straight.
        You are one lucky mother to not have your children expertpirnce any major side effects. But DO NOT condemn others for taking their children’s lives seriously. The body is made to fight illness.

      • caffeineandfairydust

        Michelle, I find it extremely ironic that you antivaccine groupies rail against Big Pharma, as if they are demon reptilians, but the package insert, written by Big Pharma, is considered gospel. Vaccine package inserts are important documents, but only if the information include therein is properly understood. It is not a document that serves as medical and scientific gospel. But it is a document that can help clinicians use vaccines (or frankly, any medication) properly. So, in your mind, you have ironclad proof that even vaccine manufacturers admit that vaccines cause autism. Of course, you chose to ignore the other bits in the paragraph of the Tripedia insert that mentioned autism (emphasis added):
        “Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include…autism…Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.”

        In other words, autism was included because it was deemed either serious or was frequently reported, not because there was any causal relationship found between the vaccine and autism. It just shows that many people probably do not understand just what the package insert for a vaccine (or any other drug) actually is or what its contents mean.

        If you want to spew “information, please give ALL information – not just the little part of the sentence that suits your argument.

      • caffeineandfairydust

        Secondly, no-one ever said the vaccines provide protection from disease in every single person. I quote from my article “First of all, it is common knowledge that vaccines aren’t always 100% effective, so it is possible for a vaccinated child to still become infected if exposed to a disease.”
        Every single medical site warns you that vaccines might cause side effects, some can be serious (like seizures) – but the risk is low. definately a much lower risk than your child getting seriously ill from not getting the vaccine. It is also common knowledge that in the event your child does get the disease he or she has been vaccinated against – it is a much lighter strain of the virus.
        Yes, it still shocks me to my core that you refuse to vaccinate your child, but not with the MMR vaccination, because your child obviously had a bad reaction to it – it could even have been an allergic reaction and any doctor would advise you against getting the second shot. If you are allergic to penicillin, and you nearly die… no doctor is going to force you to take another dose – don’t make ridiculous arguments.

        I can imagine that it must have been terrifying, and I am sorry you had to experience that. I am sorry that you were the minority – it sucks and it is unfair. Not everyone reacts well to medicine, that is a fact.

        Also – I don’t understand what you are trying to say with this “On the inserts it states to not vaccinate if you are immune compromised. Or if you have had a reaction to any other vaccination. Get your facts straight.” Please can you take a quote out of my article where I advise people who have had a bad reaction to vaccines to go ahead and get another? Or for Immune compromised people to get vaccinated? Am I on the wrong blogpost?

        I know, I am a very lucky mom – I thank my lucky stars for it every day. Sometimes though, luck is not enough and you have to rely on science and medicine to keep your kids safe and healthy.

    • colemacgyver

      Ha ha ha! No factual basis… Good one!

  • michmyb82

    Well wrttien i must say, astroturfing much?
    I would kike to know if you have ever spoken to a mom whose baby passed away shortly after being vaccinated? Where the baby was in good health before the jab? Have one of your kids suffered such a bad reaction after a routine vaccination that his arm was turning purple and twice the size it should be? Take note how many kids end up sick after their vaccinations, ending up in hospital or having to have antibiotics course after course….. so this is normal to you but it is not normal to me. Would you poison your body with all the nasty chemicals that you are injecting into your child? Please do not be so harsh on parents who dont want to be the 1 in 1000 it happens to, it is our choice, it is our right! We do not speak of any pro vaxxers in the way you bash anti vaxxers!

    • caffeineandfairydust

      I am really sorry if that happened to you. I am certainly not astroturfing – I am merely practicing my right to voice my concern about a very real threat. No I have never met parents who’s kids died of a routine vaccination – the chances of that happening is THAT slim. I have however spoken and met people who are afraid to let their kids leave the house due to battling illnesses like leukemia, HIV etc. For the fear that they will come in contact with one of these awful Vaccine preventable diseases and have a chance (much greater than dying from a vaccination) of dying from a disease that could have been prevented if you did not feel the need to fuel paranoia and baseless, factless, unproven propaganda.
      I honestly do not feel my article is at all harsh…. and you are delusional if you think anti-vaxxers do not speak of pro-vaxxers in this way. We are only recently feeling the need to defend ourselves… Why? Because YOU are putting childrens’ lives at risk.

      • michmyb82

        If your child is so healthy why are you afraid?

    • colemacgyver

      It is well written, that doesn’t mean its astroturffed though. Was there proof that the vaccine killed the baby you refer to?
      Could it have been something else, possibly? Probably.
      The child with the purple arm, did he/she die? Or did they get the disease that the vaccine was meant for? Probably not.
      If you are on course after course of antibiotics, then you’re probably seeing the wrong doctor.
      You call it poisoning your child??? Every single medicine or food item you have ever given your child has poison in it. YOU ARE POISONING YOUR CHILD! Do you live near a road? Then you are poisoning your child. (I’m being ridiculous here because your comment is ridiculous)
      As for being harsh… How harsh are you being by letting your unvaccinated children loose in the world?

      • michmyb82

        The child with the purple arm was my son. He had a very bad reaction to the vaxx and he was in soooo much pain. Oh shit did i forget to mention that he did get measels, mumps and pox eventhough he was vaxced for it. Maybe your parents fed you too much shit and therefor it is now overflowing when you open your mouth. So let me tell you something very politely…. GO FUCK yourself!!! My kids have every right to be in this world you piece of shit

    • caffeineandfairydust

      I repeat , no-one ever said the vaccines provide protection from disease in every single person. I quote from my article “First of all, it is common knowledge that vaccines aren’t always 100% effective, so it is possible for a vaccinated child to still become infected if exposed to a disease.”
      Every single medical site warns you that vaccines might cause side effects, some can be serious (like seizures) – but the risk is low. definitely a much lower risk than your child getting seriously ill from not getting the vaccine. It is also common knowledge that in the event your child does get the disease he or she has been vaccinated against – it is a much lighter strain of the virus.
      Yes, it still shocks me to my core that you refuse to vaccinate your child, but not with the MMR vaccination, because your child obviously had a bad reaction to it – it could even have been an allergic reaction and any doctor would advise you against getting the second shot. If you are allergic to penicillin, and you nearly die… no doctor is going to force you to take another dose – don’t make ridiculous arguments.

      “I would kike to know if you have ever spoken to a mom whose baby passed away shortly after being vaccinated” – Kike is a siesa word to use. Nee man. Anyway, that is besides the point. No I have not, it is THAT RARE.

      “Would you poison your body with all the nasty chemicals that you are injecting into your child?” Yes, my mom got me vaccinated and I thank her for that.

      “We do not speak of any pro vaxxers in the way you bash anti vaxxers!” – You can return from cloud coocoo land now. I quote one of YOUR comments “Maybe your parents fed you too much shit and therefor it is now overflowing when you open your mouth. So let me tell you something very politely…. GO FUCK yourself!!! My kids have every right to be in this world you piece of shit” – Do you see anyone else carrying on like an absolute lunatic? Not even your felow anti vaxxers are posting comments like that… It tells me a hell of alot about your background or lack thereof.

  • caffeineandfairydust

    Because you obviously did not read the article… and therefore commenting for the sake of stirring up drama. If you read it, you will know why I am so afraid. I did not once say my kids are ‘so healthy’… But atleast mine has a better chance of surviving an outbreak than yours… I truly hope your kids stay healthy.

    • michmyb82

      Drama? Who is the one bashing other kids you dont even know? I will keep my kids healthy thank you.
      Next time there is an outbreak on “catch a wakeup” i seriously hope you get it

      • caffeineandfairydust

        I am not bashing… This is my personal blog, I am voicing and opinion and you are getting awfully worked up for someone who has a clear conscious. If Ebola broke out in your town today would you get your kids vaccinated?

      • michmyb82

        No

      • caffeineandfairydust

        I don’t get nearly enough sleep for that to effect me in any way, but thank you for solidifying my point – you are making an uneducated, hateful argument – if somone saiz to you “I truly hope your kids stay healthy.” you don’t respond with a threat… unless you are a bad person…

      • caffeineandfairydust

        NO? So you will willingly let your children die a horrible death because of your pride? I would hope to think that you would be crawling through the streets on your hands and knees BEGGING to get that vaccine into your precious babies because that is what I would have done, if I could, to save my son or daughter.

  • Crunchy Mom

    One of the known side effects of the oral polio vaccine is permanent paralysis. Fact. Yes it is extremely rare. Yes it happens to 1 in every 2milion cases. But there is no way of knowing beforehand if your childs genetic make up will have this reaction to the vaccine. Are you willing to take that risk? There are no medications without risk. Potential side effects include seizures, paralysis, cot deaths.This is why im not anti vaccine, but pro research and pro choice.

    • colemacgyver

      I would take the 1 in 2million any day over the risk of polio.

      • Michelle

        Ignorance at its best. When last did you see someone get paralysis from polio? 1%. That’s right. 1% result in paralysis. The other 99% of the time it shows as flu. So no, polio is not eradicated. Your vaccine has nothing to do with it.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      Pseudoscience, misinformation, and nonsense.Polio always seems to bother you anti-vaxxers the most – probably because it is unequivocally a success story for vaccines that demonstrates the power of vaccination to alleviate suffering.
      Do you know how many cases of paralysis are prevented by taking the polio vaccine? Polio is a crippling disease. It is caused by a very small germ called the polio virus. Polio can lead to permanent lameness, deformity and even death. Due to routine immunisations in childhood, polio has not been seen in South Africa since 1989. However, there have been outbreaks of polio in neighbouring countries and that is scary enough. Unfortunately, some older polio vaccines had severer side effects than current ones, which is commonly known as whooping cough… Very rarely, the live virus in the older vaccine could actually revert to its natural state and cause paralysis, a tragic consequence.
      Some people in the world still deal with this risk. Live, attenuated polio vaccines are used in some regions where polio is endemic because those who get the live, attenuated vaccine are able to pass on their immunity to others around them, which helps spread immunity more quickly. People are also able to take the live, attenuated vaccine by mouth, instead of in a shot, so it’s quicker and easier to get to people in regions where there are few doctors and nurses. Different countries must judge the risks and benefits of the oral polio vaccine differently; even the U.S. had once judged the live, attenuated vaccine worth the risk, when there was nothing better available.
      No one has gotten polio from the newer polio vaccine.
      South Africa is currently the only country on the African continent using inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) for routine immunization in a sequential schedule in combination with oral polio vaccine (OPV). IPV is a component of an injectable pentavalent vaccine introduced nationwide in April 2009 .PV is administered at birth and together with the first IPV dose at 6 weeks, which stimulates gut immune system producing a memory IgA response (OPV), followed by IPV to minimize the risk of vaccine associated paralytic polio (VAPP).
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22939019

  • Crunchy Mom

    Now what would one have to gain from spreading these type of “conspiracy theories”. I suppose you also believe that the world trade centre was attacked by “terrorists”.
    Massive pharmaceutical companies who make billions on vaccine sales would not pay for research that may show the negative side effects of their products.
    This is why most research is independent. Coca-Cola and McD’s are prime examples of companies that pay for “positive research”.

    I have stated why I believe that I have a right to choose. I don’t disrespect your choice to vaccinate, but you can’t decide on my behalf, thank you. If you read the stories of real parents who have experienced the effects of vaccine related injuries you may actually understand why some have a different point of view to you.

    I am not here to cause drama, just stating a different point of view.

  • caffeineandfairydust

    This is an open letter – and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just ask that you read my article properly and follow the links to see where I am coming from before you post a comment.

  • caffeineandfairydust

    Well Mr. Andrew Wakefield is a prime example. Do you have any scientifically, medically backed up proof that I am wrong? My views on 9/11 has nothing to do with this – (and you’d be surprised).

  • caffeineandfairydust

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-an-updated-map-20141023-column.html An updated map: The devastating toll of the anti-vaccination movement

  • caffeineandfairydust

    At least we all have one big thing in common – and that is that we are all moms trying to do the best for our kids, wether we are right or wrong, the intention is good.

  • stephanie g videira

    what heated debate, her blog her options don like dont read and move on

  • Crunchy Mom

    I apologise for hijacking your blog post but this is a very sensitive subject which I am quite passionate about.

    I used to believe vaccines were completely safe and that I was protecting my child. (both my children are vaccinated). I then heard about a child who became paralyzed days after receiving the oral polio vaccine. A local child. Reported on local radio. This freaked me out completely as I always thought there were no risks…so thats when the research started. There are risks either side and I think that every parent is making the choice based on the knowledge they have.

    If I knew then what I know now I would never have vaccinated my children.

    Please take the time to read this
    http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-Sudden-Infant-Death-Syndrome

    And this video from an MD

    And if you have 2 hours this is very “propaganda – ish” but I believe the message from moms and drs is a powerful one…like I said before they have nothing to gain from sharing their stories…

    • caffeineandfairydust

      Haha that is fine, it is an open letter after all. I will have a read.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      Of course it scared the crap out of you and you have every right to do your research, justl like I have the right to do mine.. but I repeat -Polio always seems to bother you anti-vaxxers the most – probably because it is unequivocally a success story for vaccines that demonstrates the power of vaccination to alleviate suffering.
      Do you know how many cases of paralysis are prevented by taking the polio vaccine? Polio is a crippling disease. It is caused by a very small germ called the polio virus. Polio can lead to permanent lameness, deformity and even death. Due to routine immunisations in childhood, polio has not been seen in South Africa since 1989. However, there have been outbreaks of polio in neighbouring countries and that is scary enough. Unfortunately, some older polio vaccines had severer side effects than current ones, which is commonly known as whooping cough… Very rarely, the live virus in the older vaccine could actually revert to its natural state and cause paralysis, a tragic consequence.
      Some people in the world still deal with this risk. Live, attenuated polio vaccines are used in some regions where polio is endemic because those who get the live, attenuated vaccine are able to pass on their immunity to others around them, which helps spread immunity more quickly. People are also able to take the live, attenuated vaccine by mouth, instead of in a shot, so it’s quicker and easier to get to people in regions where there are few doctors and nurses. Different countries must judge the risks and benefits of the oral polio vaccine differently; even the U.S. had once judged the live, attenuated vaccine worth the risk, when there was nothing better available.
      No one has gotten polio from the newer polio vaccine.
      South Africa is currently the only country on the African continent using inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) for routine immunization in a sequential schedule in combination with oral polio vaccine (OPV). IPV is a component of an injectable pentavalent vaccine introduced nationwide in April 2009 .PV is administered at birth and together with the first IPV dose at 6 weeks, which stimulates gut immune system producing a memory IgA response (OPV), followed by IPV to minimize the risk of vaccine associated paralytic polio (VAPP).

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22939019

      ALSO

      DPT vaccine produces antibodies that are cross-reactive to staphylococcal toxins, which are found in many SIDS cases. In other words, the study found that the antibodies produced by the DPT vaccine are able to fight the toxins produced in staph infections! Thus, the DPT vaccine not only protects the infant from diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus, it also offers some protection against SIDS (or at least staph infection)!

      So once again we see that the medical literature not only invalidates the claims of anti-vaccination advocates, it actually indicates that by opposing the DPT vaccine, anti-vaccination advocates are actually increasing the incidence of SIDS (along with the incidence of pertussis, diphtheria, and tetanus). This serves once again to illustrate the danger of listening to the anti-vaccination movement.

      Here is a good article that roughly explains it relatively easy to understand manner with many references to actual medical case studies as well as reputable, registered medical websites : http://www.drwile.com/lnkpages/render.asp?vac_SIDS

      this should also be a good read.. http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccine-schedules-and-infant-mortality-a-false-relationship-promoted-by-the-anti-vaccine-movement/

      and if you have time, watch this two hour long video of Pink Fluffy Unicorns Dancing On A Rainbow http://youtu.be/a-xWhG4UU_Y

  • hollyvoicette

    I agree with your article. I have a son with autism who was diagnosed before he was vaccinated so I never had any reason to see a connection. I really can’t believe that kids are becoming autistic from vaccines. But I don’t necessarily think parents who say their child had some horrible reaction and seemed to regress after vaccination are all lying.

    I don’t really know the numbers on how many children seemed to have some drastic change for the worse post-vaccine. I would assume that a certain percentage of kids would end up having some kind of unforeseen allergic reaction. Could an unfortunate reaction to something in a vaccine give a child symptoms that have similarities to autism? I don’t know, maybe.

    I personally am getting peeved with how the word autism is trying to encompass such a vast spectrum of issues. It seems to cause confusion all the time. Though my son has many areas where he’s behind for his age, difficulty communicating, etc., it doesn’t make him unhappy, he doesn’t suffer because of it. So autism to me is charming, quirky, loveable, sometimes frustrating but mostly joyous. I don’t want him to change, just want him to do the best he can.

    But I can forget that some parents out there have children on the other end of the spectrum with very severe impairments and have to watch their kids smash their heads into walls, be incapacitated by their extreme sensory problems, see their kids in horrible pain, miserable, suffering. I can appreciate how the word autism has come to have drastically opposite sentiments attached to it than it has for me.

    Yet we’re both trying to own this one word to describe our experiences. I’ve seen so many back and forth exchanges where parents with kids on opposite ends of the spectrum of severity find each others sentiments about autism insulting/upsetting.

    “Autism needs to be cured? Come and see my bright quirky child and say it to my face.” —

    “So you’ve made a “this is the face of autism”-style video collage of kids with happy smiling faces. Come over to my house and take a picture of my child’s swollen face after he’s knocked himself unconscious and you’ll see the real “face of autism”.”

    Needless confusion. I do feel like we need some kind of intelligently formulated sub-categories rather than this one nebulous term that tries to mean so many things that it ends up telling us nothing.

    Ok, rant over, sorry for veering so off topic, just had to get that dislodged from my craw 🙂

  • Styx

    Personally I think anti-vaxxers are doing us a favor, what better way to deal with our over population issues than have the dumb cull themselves?

    • Michelle

      what a lovely person you are.

    • michmyb82

      Up yours

  • GoneTroppo

    Thanks to Crunchy Mom for standing up for our rights as independent thinkers to do what we feel is best for our children. In my humble opinion the thoughts expressed in this open letter are the same old arguments we’ve been hearing for ever, they have been addressed and defeated countless times. Sadly money and not compassion for the suffering, has become the main objective in the health care industry. If you dare to dig a little deeper, seek out a film called “Bought” – which documents how the health of our children has been bought by capitalists and industrialists. Genetically modified foods, vaccinations and an over abundance of prescription medication are eroding the health of the population worldwide. Cancer, autism and a host of previously rare and/or unheard of diseases are now at an absolute all time high. In fact cancer is now the leading cause of death in children in the USA, no longer accidents. Isn’t that just a little strange? Free independent thought and action is the birthright of a human being. Don’t try take it away or try bury it under misleading propaganda, it’s not good karma… Peace

    • colemacgyver

      The reason the arguements are old is because they are correct and dont have to be changed. Anti-vaxer’s arguements change daily because they are weak and/or made up.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      “they have been addressed and defeated countless times” – how??? The same goes for your arguments.
      “Sadly money and not compassion for the suffering, has become the main objective in the health care industry.” This might be true for private healthcare… but just think about what you are saying for a second…It’s hard to argue with such a cynical accusation, but many vaccines are created by research facilities and given to pharmaceutical companies to produce, which do so at low margins.The idea that doctors around the world are colluding in some giant immunization scam is a little bit ridiculous don’t you think? There’s no question that pharmaceutical companies are for-profit agencies, and in that way, and combined with the sheer volume of vaccines given, I can understand why some parents question whether vaccines are a scheme. I am not going to say, in any way, that pharmaceutical companies are making vaccines out of the goodness of their hearts, but it’s not the money making situation you may think.
      Vaccines are only used a few times over the course of a person’s life time as opposed to other medications which are used daily or more frequently and often for years at a time. The cost of producing them is pretty significant, especially given that companies pay an incredible amount of liability insurance to produce them, as compared with other drugs.consider other drugs – the annual revenue for the medicine Lipitor is more than the entire world’s yearly vaccine revenue. Additionally, many vaccines have been purchased or have price freezes dictated by the government, which reduces the amount of revenue that can be raised by big pharma for creating vaccines.
      The point of this is to say that pharmaceutical companies stand to make a whole lot more money by treating preventable diseases than by preventing them.

  • Ulandi

    Have any of the adults on this blog been vaccinated in the last 5 years? No? I didn’t think so. I’d you did not have these diseases a child you do not have lifelong immunity. Bit I was vaccinated, I hear you say. Vaccine immunity only lasts a short while (you may find a few exceptions). If you want to protect everyone so badly go test your titers and get up to date with your own set of vaccinations. My children are no more carriers of disease than yours. They are very healthy and won’t visit your germ ridden gp’s office anyway because I take them to a homeopath. Vaccinated children also contract the diseases they are vaccinated for, so they then have the same chance of that horrible death you mention, vaccines fail. Shots are not a replacement for good nutrition, good hygiene and treating illness at the first sign of it. You will notice that in some places the government is rolling out vitamin A supplementation in nurseries. This is becuase it is known that Vit A deficiency leads to the complications when infected with measles. I would suggest that you research treating childhood illnesses rather than vaccine safety, because when.you pay someone to do a study to prove your product is safe that is what they will say, otherwise they didn’t do their job right.

    • colemacgyver

      You have a strange mind.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      A person may become immune to a specific disease in several ways. For some illnesses, such as measles and chickenpox, having the disease usually leads to lifelong immunity to it. Vaccination is another way to become immune to a disease. Both ways of gaining immunity, either from having an illness or from vaccination, are examples of active immunity. Active immunity results when a person’s immune system works to produce antibodies and activate other immune cells to certain pathogens. If the person encounters that pathogen again, long-lasting immune cells specific to it will already be primed to fight it.
      A different type of immunity, called passive immunity, results when a person is given someone else’s antibodies. When these antibodies are introduced into the person’s body, the “loaned” antibodies help prevent or fight certain infectious diseases. The protection offered by passive immunization is short-lived, usually lasting only a few weeks or months. But it helps protect right away…. You know, just for your information.

      “They are very healthy and won’t visit your germ ridden gp’s office anyway because I take them to a homeopath.” So taking them to a homeopath does not expose them to any germs whatsoever? Because sick people do not go to homeopaths? Is that what you are saying? Are you saying that homeopaths do not treat people with cancer? HIV?

      “Vaccinated children also contract the diseases they are vaccinated for, so they then have the same chance of that horrible death you mention, vaccines fail.” I repeat , no-one ever said the vaccines provide protection from disease in every single person. I quote from my article “First of all, it is common knowledge that vaccines aren’t always 100% effective, so it is possible for a vaccinated child to still become infected if exposed to a disease.” If they do contract it, it will be a much lighter strain of the virus with mild side effects. Medical fact.

      “Shots are not a replacement for good nutrition, good hygiene and treating illness at the first sign of it. ” No-one uses it as a replacement, those are things that make you a good mother, that is your responsibility to your kids and have absolutely nothing to do with this argument. Are you saying that every parent who’s child has died from contagious diseases did not care enough for their kids? That they let their kids eat crap and live in poor hygiene? Do you think that when their kids got sick they just sat back and did not care? That is quite a horrible accusation.

  • Sandra Bezuidenhout

    Did it not occur to you to open your mind and wonder why there is such an anti-vaccine movement?????? Do you think we are doing this for fun????? I understand it is hard for you as the “herd mentality” has you in a firm grip!. I understand fully as I was one of you, a firm believer in science and I work in the medical profession, but guess what? my daughter became a victim of the MMR and unless it happens to you, you will never care or understand.

    I started to research and I have been horrified as to what I have learnt and seen with my own eyes and my choice is I will NEVER vaccinate. I don’t care if you do as that is YOUR choice!!

    What I do know is in the long run the generation of kids that do not vaccinate will far outlive the ones that do! and that my dear will finally be all the proof you need!.

  • Adri Stratford

    I completely side with science on this one. It is my personal choice to vaccinate my children for their safety as well as those of their friends. While I understand that vaccines are not 100% effective I will continue to have my baby vaccinated as well. My son received every single one of his vaccinations, but then still ended up getting Chicken Pox as well as Mumps. He was very sick with both, but fortunately it was not as bad as it could have been. My personal view point is that if you do not want to vaccinate your child, then it is your choice, but then those kids should not be in a class with 30 other children to spread the viruses.

    • Michelle

      YoI contradict yourself. Your child got the mumps etc… Your child no doubt was a virus spreader too! Shame and he got vaccinated.? All those toxins FOR NOTHING!

      • caffeineandfairydust

        No. Post-vaccination symptoms are not infectious, so your child will not pass anything on to non-vaccinated children – so it was not for nothing.

        http://www.nhsdirect.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/m/article/mmr/

        here’s one fact that makes the measles virus really scary: it’s one of the most infectious diseases known to man. A person with measles can cough in a room, leave, and — if you are unvaccinated — hours later, you could catch the virus from the droplets in the air that they left behind.

  • Jenny

    Vaccinations don’t cause cancer – sugar does. Probably also the cause of autism if somebody looks closely enough. Vaccinations are not and should not be a ‘choice’ – if you choose to not buckle up your kids and they die – that’s a choice that only impacts on you. If you choose to not vaccinate your kids and they get sick – that’s a choice that impacts on many. Not a choice.

  • colemacgyver

    Facts are facts. Vaccines work and keep us safe. Anti-vaxers can shout as loud as they want and justify their choice with as many YouTube videos as they want.
    The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. – Winston Churchill

    • Michelle

      My dear friend, get your head out of the ground. It is not YouTube videos. It is first hand experience with vaccinations that caused our children severe problems.. It’s okay to find out everything you’ve believed is wrong. Don’t be afraid young man. Don’t be afraid.

      • caffeineandfairydust

        it’s okay to admit you did not do enough research before your child got vaccinated regarding allergy triggers, side effects, who should and who should not get vaccinated. When your child suffered a bad reaction, you threw your hands up in the air and gave up on science and medicine.

  • GoneTroppo

    There is obviously no debating with folks who are in favour of medical tyranny… That same Churchill quote could easily be used for the other side of the debate. Here’s another quote.

    “Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time. Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defense of their conviction.” – Mahatma Gandhi

    • caffeineandfairydust

      ” Vaccines have always had a special meaning for me. As a young child in South Africa, I nearly died from polio. Back then – in the early 1930’s – there was no vaccine for this highly infectious disease. With good reason, parents everywhere were terrified that poliovirus would reach their doorstep – like a plague – striking a child and causing irreversible paralysis in a matter of hours, or, worse, death in a matter of days.
      The remarkable progress that we have made so far is the result of a sustained global effort, supported by significant resources committed by donor and affected countries, millions of dedicated health workers, and sustained political will to get the job done. But we must finish what we have started. Until the polio virus is eradicated everywhere, no country is safe from reinfection.
      At the same time, we must make the most of scientific advances over the last half-century, which have made vaccines for other preventable diseases the most powerful and cost-effective health-care investment that currently exists.” – Desmond TuTu

  • chastin dreyer

    AGREE with everything you have to say and have posted several similar articles this is the only topic where I feel you should not have a choice in the matter it is not just your child you are risking but the baby who is to young to be vaccinated, the pregnant woman or elderly person who is susceptible to death or other complications from these illnesses as well as the sick children who cannot be vaccinated, birth methods feeding methods etc those affect your child and only your child but this affects not only your child but those around your child, that aside I have seen and had loved ones affected by polio measles and mumps, permanent disabilities that will affect their everyday living forever all contracted before they could be immunized these disabilities deafness blindness etc were a proven direct cause of these illnesses unlike autism which has not been proven to be linked to the mmr the man who published the original mmr study lost his license for fraud his study was poorly done he took blood from 10 year old’s at his sons birthday party for crying out loud and those mothers have said that not only did he not ask permission and paid those children to get the blood but he fraudulated the information he lied and falsified the children’s medical history etc

  • chastin dreyer

    for everyone that is against vaccinations have you read the labels on all other medications you give your child , do you feed your child non organic foods and take them to non homeopathic doctors!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Michelle

      Most of us try not use allopathic medication unnecessary. We also try follow a as natural as dammit way of life. It’s not always possible but we try our best

      • caffeineandfairydust

        Irrelevant, many of us pro-vaccination parents also choose to eat organic, and live as naturally as possible. I don’t think any parent tries to use medication if it is unnecessary.We all try our best.

  • Ryan

    For people to really live in a pro choice democracy. We need advocates for both sides, so people can make informed decisions. To force Vaccinations on the public is nothing less than Fascism. Once science can categorically state and prove that ALL vaccines are safe for ALL people and that unvaccinated children will infect others, then it will be put into policy but they CANNOT, so it has to remain a choice!

    If you continue with this frame of view, whats next? Making HIV infected people wear labels and forbid them from intercourse and human contact. The reason we have a constitution is to protect our much loved freedom.

    Once you or me start telling people what they “must” do, we are in threat of destroying the very fabric of our already thinly veiled freedom.

    So if you have explored all possible angles, vetted all sources and come to the same conclusion. By all means spread the word try and convince the world, but please lets stop the unnecessary bashing and battles of who is right. Everyone concerned has only the best interest of our children and our future at heart. Its a free world we live in, so respect each others opinions and beliefs – it might make us more inclined to help each other for a better future for all.

  • Onzicles

    What about 15 children that died shortly after receiving a contaminated batch of the measles vaccine, which was confirmed by WHO and UNICEF? Please go tell those children’s parents that vaccines are safe and will save their children’s lives. I’m sure they’ll really appreciate it.

    Link: http://rt.com/news/188580-syria-children-dead-vaccinations/#.VBsSxnHT6co.twitter

    Why has herd immunity been proven a myth? (Herd thinking on the other hand…)

    Link: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/02/18/the-deadly-impossibility-of-herd-immunity-through-vaccination-by-dr-russell-blaylock/
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/herd-immunity-myth-or-reality

    Why is China having a measles outbreak when nearly 100% of their population is vaccinated?

    Link: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-china-having-measles-outbreaks-when-99-are-vaccinated-2

    Oh, I see you so happily refer to Roald Dahl’s letter… Measles didn’t kill his daughter. Measles Enchephalitis did. Which, like reactions to autism, is extremely rare. Shock horror, you probably don’t mention that because it doesn’t suit your argument.

    Why then do these vaccines have the ability to cause seizures and brain inflammation? I see someone that mentioned sugar as the cause of a lot of childhood problems… Vaccines contain sucrose.

    http://www.generationrescue.org/resources/vaccination/vaccine-ingredients-and-side-effects/

    I’ve had my say. Just remember that the mass media is controlled by the wealthy. They are paid to write what they write, so naturally they will write to cause panic, because that is how the wealthy stay wealthy.

    Just remember, that a little bit of research goes a long way.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      That is very infortunate – the contaminated batch was human error. And in what world has herd immunity been proven a myth?? Your argument holds absolutely no merit.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      The 15 children in Syria is a horribly sad case. In the link you published is old, they have concluded that it was BASIC HUMAN ERROR. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/10/un-vaccine-mistake-killed-syrian-children-2014101192556950498.html and http://www.newsweek.com/15-syria-children-dead-after-measles-vaccination-271525

      in the 2012 essay by Russel Blaylock you refer to in which he seems to claim that vaccines are essentially worthless and therefore the nationwide mandates for immunization are unfounded in addition to being akin the Nazis. – So one man writes one paper and it is absolute fact, definately true – no questions asked?

      “Oh, I see you so happily refer to Roald Dahl’s letter… Measles didn’t kill his daughter. Measles Enchephalitis did. Which, like reactions to autism, is extremely rare. Shock horror, you probably don’t mention that because it doesn’t suit your argument.?” Are you illiterate? It mentions it in is article. Very clearly. Shock Horror, OMG.

      Yes… Everyone is out to get you.

  • Onzicles

    Please read both the links I posted in regards to so called herd immunity where it has been debunked. Herd immunity = herd thinking.

  • Onzicles

    And I see your BWC link… Aborted fetal bovine cells in vaccinations, as well aborted fetal cells from humans both present themselves in certain vaccinations.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      They are very open abou the ingredients… i guess it is just how you choose to spin it that matters http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
      This is a case where cooler heads need to prevail. First, let’s start with the premise that every cell of your body is made up of a huge number of chemical compounds, all of which have scary-sounding chemical names. Therefore, we can derive that scary-sounding chemical names, by themselves, are not to be feared. Cooler heads might choose to allow for the possibility that these scary chemicals are added to vaccines because they serve some useful purpose.
      aborted fetal cells from humans – You sure picked the scariest sounding thing youcould think of here! Well done. Although this specific ingredient is made up, vaccines can include all sorts of proteins derived from all sorts of animals.

      Human Serum Albumin, or HSA, is a stabilizing protein made from human blood donations, not from aborted fetuses. Bovine albumin is also used in a few vaccines. Some vaccines are grown in cultures of monkey or chicken kidney tissue, and when the vaccines are extracted, a few cells from the culture always remain. There’s never been any evidence that this might be dangerous. Some vaccines are cultured inside chicken eggs, and some egg protein may remain as a result. This can be a problem for people with severe allergies to egg protein, so these people should avoid these vaccines. You’ll hear all sorts of shock stories about embryonic fluid and cells of exotic animals. Be skeptical of such stories, and you are shocked and concerned, spend five minutes searching the web to find out if that ingredient is actually used; and if so, why; and whether it represents any credible cause for concern. I guarantee you that Jenny McCarthy is neither the first person, nor the best informed, to have considered vaccine safety.

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  • Jhana

    Thank you for this blog! I live in South Africa and we have a growing “Trend” of Anti-Vaxxers around here. Could not agree more with your post.

  • lynne

    I have 3 children. I vaccinated my first with everything recommended and more, as coming from a medical family, I held your opinion on vaccinations and wanted to protect him. He has ‘ironically been the most sickly of all 3, including several trips to emergency with life threatening asthma attacks. He is now 9 and still struggles with asthma. Doing some research, there seems to be growing evidence that there is a potential link between vacs and increasing asthma sufferers. My other 2 children have not been fully vaccinated and thankfully seldom get sick. All I am saying, is that we all have choices. And we do do what we feel is best for our children, and different experiences can changes ones opinions. I have vaccinated against measles and polio seperately as I agree, it can be a deadly disease. But don’t be so quick to judge others.

  • Crunchy Mom

    The reality is there are many pro-choice parent and the number is growing (not really anti vax because I have nothing to do with you and your parenting choices).

    Your article does not address any of the REAL reasons that these parents choose not to vax but rather validates your own choice.

    I challenge you to watch the documentary and then write an open letter keeping in mind the perspective of those who have different views to yours. Because this letter is attacking and one sided.

      • caffeineandfairydust

        Ginger Taylor is an anti-vaccine activist and vice-president of a tiny splinter political party. She has compiled a list of papers (the count is currently 72) that she claims “show that vaccines can cause autism”.

        Taylor’s list of papers has been getting a lot of play, so a group of pro-science bloggers and writers reviewed the list in detail.

        No, the 72 papers do not show that vaccines can cause autism. Papers #20-39 are discussed below the fold and you can download a copy of the full list yourself here: Download G_Taylor_list_debunked_V2.0_8_7
        20. Oxidative Stress in Autism: Elevated Cerebellar 3-nitrotyrosine Levels (original Taylor Number = 14)

        Correct Citation: Sajdel-Sulkowska, E.M., B. Lipinski, H. Windom, T. Audhya and W. McGinnis, 2008. Oxidative Stress in Autism: Elevated Cerebellar 3-nitrotyrosine Levels. Am. J. Biochem. Biotechnol., 73-84. DOI : 10.3844/ajbbsp.2008.73.84

        This study has nothing to do with vaccines, and therefore cannot demonstrate that “vaccines cause autism”.

        21. Large Brains in Autism: The Challenge of Pervasive Abnormality (original Taylor number = 15)

        Correct citation: Herbert MR. Large brains in autism: the challenge of pervasive abnormality. Neuroscientist. 2005 Oct;11(5):417-40.

        http://masslawyersweekly.com/fulltext-opinions/2006/08/21/macgregor-et-al-v-annette-born-et-al/: “Clearly, Dr. Herbert’s method is not generally accepted in the scientific community. Dr. Herbert’s theory of environmental triggers of autism may some day prove true. It has not yet.”

        In addition to Herbert’s questionable theorizing, this paper has nothing to do with vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        22. Evidence of Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Neuronal Insult in Autism (original Taylor number = 16)

        Correct citation: Kern JK, Jones AM. Evidence of toxicity, oxidative stress, and neuronal insult in autism. J Toxicol Environ Health B Crit Rev. 2006 Nov-Dec;9(6):485-99.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No, this is a review paper rather that a randomized, controlled study of vaccines in autism.

        Kern is a co-author on 31 papers. It is worrying that of those, two are positive studies on secretin and 14 have one or both Geiers as co-authors, including two from 2012 and one from 2011. In 2012, she was employed by the Geier chemical-castration-for-autism chain.

        23. Oxidative Stress in Autism (Original Taylor number = 17)

        Correct citation: Chauhan A, Chauhan V. Oxidative stress in autism. Pathophysiology. 2006 Aug;13(3):171-81. Epub 2006 Jun 12.

        This is a review article, summarizing the research to date on oxidative stress in autism and some implications for therapies. The conclusion: “Preliminary results of some of clinical trials have suggested improved behavior in individuals with autism who receive antioxidant therapy.”

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        24. Thimerosal Neurotoxicity is Associated with Glutathione Depletion: Protection with Glutathione Precursors (original Taylor number = 18)

        Correct citation: James SJ, Slikker W 3rd, Melnyk S, New E, Pogribna M, Jernigan S. Thimerosal neurotoxicity is associated with glutathione depletion: protection with glutathione precursors. Neurotoxicology. 2005 Jan;26(1):1-8.

        Another in-vitro study with a concentration of thimerosal (no longer used in childhood vaccines in the U.S., with the exception of some flu vaccines) much higher than in vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        25. Aluminum adjuvant linked to gulf war illness induces motor neuron death in mice (Original Taylor number = 19)

        Correct citation: Petrik MS, Wong MC, Tabata RC, Garry RF, Shaw CA. Aluminum adjuvant linked to Gulf War illness induces motor neuron death in mice. Neuromolecular Med. 2007;9(1):83-100.

        Mouse model, not a human study. A very small and weak study which has never been replicated.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        26. Enrichment of Elevated Plasma F2t-Isoprostane Levels in Individuals with Autism Who Are Stratified by Presence of Gastrointestinal Dysfunction (Not in Taylor’s original list)

        Correct Citation: Gorrindo P, Lane CJ, Lee EB, McLaughlin B, Levitt P (July 3, 2013) Enrichment of Elevated Plasma F2t-Isoprostane Levels in Individuals with Autism Who Are Stratified by Presence of Gastrointestinal Dysfunction PLoS ONE 8(7): e68444.

        This study has nothing to do with vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        27. Environmental mercury release, special education rates, and autism disorder: an ecological study of Texas (Original Taylor number = 20)

        Correct citation: Palmer RF, Blanchard S, Stein Z, Mandell D, Miller C. Environmental mercury release, special education rates, and autism disorder: an ecological study of Texas. Health Place. 2006 Jun;12(2):203-9.

        In commenting on a later Palmer study, one researcher wrote, “Dr. Palmer’s 2006 study, which was so full of holes that even antivaccinationists had a hard time defending it,”

        This study has nothing to do with vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        28. Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children (Not in original Taylor list)

        Correct citation: Holmes AS, Blaxill MF, Haley BE. Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children. Int J Toxicol. 2003 Jul-Aug;22(4):277-85.

        The fatally flawed baby-hair study.

        The first flaw in the study is the authors’ acceptance of the idea of “excretion into the hair”. It doesn’t happen. Blood mercury does not equal hair mercury. The second flaw is the data collection methods (the hair used in the study). The third flaw is that the study found that the autistic children had lower hair mercury levels than the neurotypical controls. Rather than accepting that data, the authors went on to spin “tooth fairy tales” to explain why that might be so (the idea that autistic children had impaired mercury excretion). The fourth flaw in the study involves the hair analyzed: the samples had been in storage under unknown conditions for a median of five and a half years.

        Do I really need to go on why Holmes et al. is a broken reed? It was, when published, a footling study.

        But wait: One more thing you should know: Holmes et al. 2003 authors’ affiliations are given as Safeminds. Safeminds is an acronym for Sensible Action For Ending Mercury Induced Neurological Disorders. Do you think the authors had an ideological point to make?

        Discussion:http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2011/09/that-baby-hair-study-from-2003.html

        This study has nothing to do with vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        29. A Case Series of Children with Apparent Mercury Toxic Encephalopathies Manifesting with Clinical Symptoms of Regressive Autistic Disorder (Original Taylor number = 22)

        Correct Citation: Geier DA, Geier MR., A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders. J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 May 15;70(10):837-51.

        How anyone could, in 2013, continue to cite the deeply discredited Geier family (father and son) is beyond me. See for example http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2006/06/20/mark-geier-and-david-geier-carry-on-misrepresenting/ or http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2006/10/10/mark-geier-david-geier-and-the-vsd/

        Those are just criticism of just this paper. Others from the father-son team garnered even more scathing criticism.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        30. The Changing Prevalence of Autism In California(Original Taylor Number=24)

        Correct Citation: Blaxill MF, Baskin DS, Spitzer WO Commentary on on Croen et al. (2002), The Changing Prevalence of Autism in California, J Autism Dev Disord. 2003 April;33(2):223-226

        Note the date on this paper: 2003. A decade ago. It is a commentary on a previously published article, which concluded “These data suggest that improvements in detection and changes in diagnosis account for the observed increase in autism; whether there has also been a true increase in incidence is not known.” The Blaxill et al. commentary is merely that, a commentary, and expresses the authors’ own rather biased beliefs.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        31. Mitochondrial Energy-Deficient Endophenotype in Autism (Original Taylor number = 46)

        Correct citation Gargus JJ, Imtias F Mitochondrial Energy-Deficient Endophenotype in Autism Am J Biochem Biotechn 2008 4 (2): 198-207.

        Vaccines are not mentioned in the paper. It is a discussion of possible rare subtype(s) of autism with genetic mutations causing mitochondrial deficiencies.

        Note: this and other papers in this issue were published in a special issue of the American Journal of Biochemistry and Biotechnology supported by Autism Speaks: autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/american-journal-biochemistry-and-biotechnology

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        32. Bridging from Cells to Cognition in Autism Pathophysiology: Biological Pathways to Defective Brain Function and Plasticity (Original Taylor number = 26)

        Correct citation: Anderson MP, Hooker BS, Herbert MR, 2008 Bridging from Cells to Cognition in Autism Pathophysiology: Biological Pathways to Defective Brain Function and Plasticity. Am J Biochem Biotechn 2008 4 (2): 167-176.. DOI: 10.3844/ajbbsp.2008.167.176

        This is a speculative article on the possible non-genetic causation mechanisms for autism. Vaccines, vaccination, nor immunization are not mentioned in the article.

        Note: this and other papers in this issue were published in a special issue of the American Journal of Biochemistry and Biotechnology supported by Autism Speaks, autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/american-journal-biochemistry-and-biotechnology

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        33. Heavy-Metal Toxicity—With Emphasis on Mercury (Original Taylor Number = 27)

        Correct citation: Neustadt J, Pieczenik, S 2007 Heavy-Metal Toxicity – With Emphasis on Mercury (Research Review) 2007 IMJC 6(2) 26-32 (https://stevepieczenik.com/pdf/Heavy%20Metals%20Article.pdf accessed 7/27/13)

        This is an article from a fringe journal for naturopaths. The article is alarmist about amalgam fillings as a risk of mercury toxicity, but nowhere mentions vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        34. Evidence of Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism and Implications for Treatment (Original Taylor Number = 28)

        Correct citation:, Rossignol, DA, Bradstreet JJ 2008. Evidence of Mitochondrial Dysfunction in Autism and Implications for Treatment, Am J Biochem Biotechn 2008 4 (2): 208-217.

        This study has nothing to do with vaccines.

        Note: this and other papers in this issue were published in a special issue of the American Journal of Biochemistry and Biotechnology supported by Autism Speaks:autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/american-journal-biochemistry-and-biotechnology

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        35. Proximity to point sources of environmental mercury release as a predictor of autism prevalence (Original Taylor number = 29)

        Correct citation: Palmer RF, Blanchard S, Wood R. Proximity to point sources of environmental mercury release as a predictor of autism prevalence. Health Place. 2009 Mar;15(1):18-24. Epub 2008 Feb 12.

        A deeply flawed paper.

        http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/05/01/wait-its-not-mercury-in-vaccines-its-mer/: “If [Palmer] has an obvious source of bias, it may well explain much; if he does not I’m left with the less satisfying conclusion that he is just not a very good scientist at all. I also have to wonder about the quality of the peer review of this particular journal. After all, if I, who am not an epidemiologist, can spot the glaring flaws in this study, why couldn’t the peer reviewers?”

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        36. Epidemiology of autism spectrum disorder in Portugal: prevalence, clinical characterization, and medical conditions (Original Taylor number = 30)

        Correct citation: Oliveira G, Ataíde A, Marques C, Miguel TS, Coutinho AM, Mota-Vieira L, Gonçalves E, Lopes NM, Rodrigues V, Carmona da Mota H, Vicente AM. Epidemiology of autism spectrum disorder in Portugal: prevalence, clinical characterization, and medical conditions. Dev Med Child Neurol. 2007 Oct;49(10):726-33.

        I was puzzled as to why this paper was included, but the survey found “A diversity of associated medical conditions was documented in 20%, with an unexpectedly high rate of mitochondrial respiratory chain disorders.” Poling and others have used this finding to claim that “up to 20% of children with autism have mitochondrial disorders”. The paper does not discuss vaccination at all.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        37. Thimerosal induces neuronal cell apoptosis by causing cytochrome c and apoptosis-inducing factor release from mitochondria. (Original Taylor number = 31)

        Correct citation: Yel L, Brown LE, Su K, Gollapudi S, Gupta S. Thimerosal induces neuronal cell apoptosis by causing cytochrome c and apoptosis-inducing factor release from mitochondria. Int J Mol Med. 2005 Dec;16(6):971-7.

        An in-vitro study on a specific cell line exposed to high doses of thimerosal.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        38. Mitochondrial mediated thimerosal-induced apoptosis in a human neuroblastoma cell line (SK-N-SH). (Original Taylor number = 32)

        Correct citation: Humphrey ML, Cole MP, Pendergrass JC, Kiningham KK. Mitochondrial mediated thimerosal-induced apoptosis in a human neuroblastoma cell line (SK-N-SH).Neurotoxicology. 2005 Jun;26(3):407-16.

        An in-vitro study on a specific cell line exposed to high doses of thimerosal.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        39. Possible Immunological Disorders in Autism: Concomitant Autoimmunity and Immune Tolerance (Original Taylor number = 33)

        Correct citation: Kawashti MI, Amin OR, Rowehy NG. Possible immunological disorders in autism: concomitant autoimmunity and immune tolerance. Egypt J Immunol. 2006;13(1):99-104.

        A small (60 subject)study on differences in immunological profiles between autistic children and typically-developing siblings. Study has not been replicated.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

      • caffeineandfairydust

        Ginger Taylor is an anti-vaccine activist and vice-president of a tiny splinter political party. She has compiled a list of papers (the count is currently 72) that she claims “show that vaccines can cause autism”.

        Taylor’s list of papers has been getting a lot of play, so a group of pro-science bloggers and writers reviewed the list in detail.

        No, the 72 papers do not show that vaccines can cause autism.
        The Papers:
        40. Pediatric Vaccines Influence Primate Behavior, and Amygdala Growth and Opioid Ligand Binding Friday, May 16, 2008: IMFAR (Original Taylor number = 32)

        Laura Hewitson was the lead researcher on a series of studies on comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated macaque monkeys. This was one of three poster presentations at the 2008 meeting of the International Meeting for Autism Research (IMFAR) by Hewiston and others (including Wakefield) on a set of primates. There were other studies that came out of the Hewitson group. The Hewitson publication program was extremeley confusing; a timeline and discussion is available at: http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2012/05/this-is-going-around-new-study-baby-monkeys-develop-autism-after-routine-cdc-vaccinations.html Others write about Hewitson’s research peccadillos here (a non-exhaustive list):

        May 18, 2008 http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/05/18/laura-hewistons-stinker/
        May 19, 2008 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/monkey-business-in-autism-research/
        July 16, 2010 http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/terrible-anti-vaccine-study-terrible-reporting/
        July 16, 2010 http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/07/16/the-genie-is-out-of-the-bottle-vaccines-cause-autism/
        July 16,, 202 http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/07/16/too-much-vaccineautism-monkey-business-f/
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        41. Thimerosal exposure in infants and neurodevelopmental disorders: An assessment of computerized medical records in the Vaccine Safety Datalink. (Original Taylor number =35)

        Correct citation: Young HA, Geier DA, Geier MR. Thimerosal exposure in infants and neurodevelopmental disorders: an assessment of computerized medical records in the Vaccine Safety Datalink. J Neurol Sci. 2008 Aug 15;271(1-2):110-8. doi: 10.1016/j.jns.2008.04.002. Epub 2008 May 15.

        This paper has to be one of the most thoroughly scrutinized (and debunked) of all the papers that claim a connection between vaccines and autism.

        The backstory: http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2006/10/10/mark-geier-david-geier-and-the-vsd/
        http://epiwonk.com/?p=55 “This study has a lot of problems, and I predict that it will take me at least five posts to go through the article point by point to explain all the flaws. However, there’s one trick that the authors play that’s so glaring that I have to point it out immediately. In fact, I’ve spent two days in shock that the journal editor and reviewers let the authors get away with it.”
        http://epiwonk.com/?p=57 “it’s probably a good idea to back up a bit and talk about confounding and confounders. The authors make no mention of confounding and take no account of potential confounding in their analysis. This is one of the many flaws of the study.”
        http://epiwonk.com/?p=59 On the nature of the ecological fallacy.
        http://bmartinmd.com/2008/05/irb-approval-of-geier-autism-s.html
        http://bmartinmd.com/2008/05/ive-been-sucked-into-the-thime.html
        http://bmartinmd.com/2008/05/young-geier-autism-study-1.html
        http://bmartinmd.com/2008/05/young-geier-autism-study-2.html
        http://bmartinmd.com/2008/05/young-geier-autism-study-3.html
        http://bmartinmd.com/2008/05/young-geier-autism-study-4.html
        Summarizing the drawbacks of Young et al’s study and write-up is a considerable challenge, frankly because there are so many.
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        42. Glutathione, oxidative stress and neurodegeneration (Original Taylor number = 32)

        Correct citation: Schulz JB, Lindenau J, Seyfried J, Dichgans J. Glutathione, oxidative stress and neurodegeneration. Eur J Biochem. 2000 Aug;267(16):4904-11.

        This study does not discuss vaccination or autism.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        43. Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years (Original Taylor number = 37)

        Correct citation: Gallagher C, Goodman M 2008. Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years, Toxicol Environ Chem 2008 90(5):997-1008. DOI:10.1080/02772240701806501

        A 2013 study found that children with ASD had a lower uptake of HepB, https://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2013/webprogram/Paper12796.html, discussed at http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2013/05/mind-institute-no-difference-in.html

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        44. Induction of metallothionein in mouse cerebellum and cerebrum with low-dose thimerosal injection. (Original Taylor number = 38)

        Correct citation: Minami T, Miyata E, Sakamoto Y, Yamazaki H, Ichida S. Induction of metallothionein in mouse cerebellum and cerebrum with low-dose thimerosal injection. Cell Biol Toxicol. 2010 Apr;26(2):143-52. doi: 10.1007/s10565-009-9124-z. Epub 2009 Apr 9.

        Studies in mice using a carrier medium. Does not prove that autism is caused by vaccination, with or without thimerosal.

        45. Mercury induces inflammatory mediator release from human mast cells (Original Taylor number = 39)

        Correct citation: Kempuraj D, Asadi S, Zhang B, Manola A, Hogan J, Peterson E, Theoharides TC. Mercury induces inflammatory mediator release from human mast cells. J Neuroinflammation. 2010 Mar 11;7:20. doi: 10.1186/1742-2094-7-20.

        In-vitro study of mercuric chloride (HgCl2) , not ethyl mercury or thimerosal. Does not “show vaccines cause autism”.

        46. Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study (Original Taylor=34)
        Correct citation: Hewitson L, Lopresti BJ, Stott C, Mason NS, Tomko J. Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study. Acta Neurobiol Exp (Wars). 2010;70(2):147-64.

        Another of the infamous, ever evolving Hewitson macaque papers.

        Debunked at

        July 16, 2010 http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/07/16/too-much-vaccineautism-monkey-business-f/
        July 16 2010 http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/07/16/the-genie-is-out-of-the-bottle-vaccines-cause-autism/“This paper is generating quite a bit of interest in places like the Age of Autism blog. Unfortunately for them, this paper is not the genie getting out of the bottle. Just another low quality paper. Just another 16 monkeys giving their lives for nothing.”
        For a complete history of the Hewitson macaque study and its various papers and authors, see: http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2012/05/this-is-going-around-new-study-baby-monkeys-develop-autism-after-routine-cdc-vaccinations.html
        Note: This issue of Acta Neurobiologiae Experimentalis (ANE) focused upon autism. Not just autism, but autism causation with papers on vaccines, acetaminophen and, of course, mercury. The idea for this focus edition came from Professor Dorota Majewska who holds the EU Marie Curie Chair at the Institute of Psychiatry and Neurology in Warsaw, Poland. The authors for this focus issue are largely the same as those from a conference Prof. Majewska organized in 2008, Autism and Vaccinations.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        47. Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge. (Original Taylor number = 41)

        Correct citation: Walker SJ, Segal J, Aschner M. Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge. Neurotoxicology. 2006 Sep;27(5):685-92. Epub 2006 Jun 16.

        An in-vitro cell study, thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines), using concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        48. Neonatal administration of a vaccine preservative, thimerosal, produces lasting impairment of nociception and apparent activation of opioid system in rats. (Original Taylor number = 59)

        Correct citatons: Olczak M, Duszczyk M, Mierzejewski P, Majewska MD. 2009 Neonatal administration of a vaccine preservative, thimerosal, produces lasting impairment of nociception and apparent activation of opioid system in rats. Brain Res. 2009 Dec 8;1301:143-51. doi: 10.1016/j.brainres.2009.09.003. Epub 2009 Sep 9.

        Rat study on injected thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines) in concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines. Note: lead researcher M Dorota Majewska seems to have specialized in rat studies that show thimerosal damage.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        49. Sorting out the spinning of autism: heavy metals and the question of incidence (Original Taylor number = 44)

        Correct citation: Desoto MC, Hitlan RT. Sorting out the spinning of autism: heavy metals and the question of incidence. Acta Neurobiol Exp (Wars). 2010;70(2):165-76.

        Debunked at http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/08/03/prof-desoto-discusses-mercury-and-autism/

        Note: This issue of Acta Neurobiologiae Experimentalis (ANE) focused upon autism. Not just autism, but autism causation with papers on vaccines, acetaminophen and, of course, mercury. The idea for this focus edition came from Professor Dorota Majewska who holds the EU Marie Curie Chair at the Institute of Psychiatry and Neurology in Warsaw, Poland. The authors for this focus issue are largely the same as those from a conference Prof. Majewska organized in 2008, Autism and Vaccinations.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        50. Urinary Porphyrin Excretion in Neurotypical and Autistic Children (Original Taylor number = 45)

        Correct citation: Woods JS, Armel SE, Fulton DI, Allen J, Wessels K, Simmonds PL, Granpeesheh D, Mumper E, Bradstreet JJ, Echeverria D, Heyer NJ, Rooney JP. 2010 Urinary porphyrin excretion in neurotypical and autistic children. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Oct;118(10):1450-7. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901713. Epub 2010 Jun 24.

        It is an article of belief in some circles that urinary porphyrin excretion abnormalities is a biomarker for autism. However, the foundations of that belief rest upon studies performed by the disgraced and discredited Geier family (father and son).

        Woods et al. 2010, the above article does not mention vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        51. Mitochondrial dysfunction in autism spectrum disorders: a systematic review and meta-analysis (Original Taylor number = 46)

        Correct citation: Rossignol DA, Frye RE Mitochondrial dysfunction in autism spectrum disorders: a systematic review and meta-analysis Molecular Psychiatry (2012) 17, 290–314; doi:10.1038/mp.2010.136; published online 25 January 2011

        Review article, not study. This paper has nothing to do with vaccines

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        52. Sensitization effect of thimerosal is mediated in vitro via reactive oxygen species and calcium signaling. (Original Taylor number = 47)

        Correct Citation: Migdal C, Foggia L, Tailhardat M, Courtellemont P, Haftek M, Serres M. Sensitization effect of thimerosal is mediated in vitro via reactive oxygen species and calcium signaling. Toxicology. 2010 Jul-Aug;274(1-3):1-9. doi: 10.1016/j.tox.2010.04.016. Epub 2010 May 10.

        In vitro study, thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines), concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        53. What’s going on? The question of time trends in autism. (Not in Taylor’s original list.)

        Correct citation: Blaxill MF. What’s going on? The question of time trends in autism. Public Health Rep. 2004 Nov-Dec;119(6):536-51.

        Review of survey literature available in years prior to 2004. Outdated and superceded by many more reliable publications. Paper does not mention vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        54. Vaccines and Autism. (Not in Taylor’s original list.)

        Correct citation, Rimland B, McGinnis W, Vaccines and Autism, Laboratory medicine, september 2002 9: 33 708-717

        An 11-year-old discursive article discussing the authors’ belief that something about the MMR vaccine and thimerosal is causal in autism. Later studies found no autism connection with either factor.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        55. Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes—A review (Original Taylor number = 50)

        Correct citation: Ratajczak HV. Theoretical aspects of autism: causes–a review. J Immunotoxicol. 2011 Jan-Mar;8(1):68-79.

        This is one of the more risible papers in Taylor’s list. See for example:

        http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/02/11/sloppy-science-a-perfect-example-of-how-the-anti-vaccine-crowd-will-listen-to-anything/ “The rest of the paper is a rogues’ gallery of debunked and fringe science. Helen Ratajczak cites the Geiers numerous times, DeSoto and Hitlan, Nataf and Rossignol to name but a few. This isn’t a paper so much as an advert for the sort of poor science that was examined in the Autism Omnibus proceedings and roundly rejected by the Special Masters. For goodness sake, she even cites David Ayoub of the Black Helicopter infamy.”
        http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/anti-vaccine-propaganda-from-sharyl-attkisson-of-cbs-news-2/“How on earth did this get through peer review? Obviously, the peer reviewers of Dr. Ratajczak’s article were either completely ignorant of the background science (and therefore unqualified) or asleep at the switch.”
        http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2012/07/3-theoretical-aspects-of-autism-causes-a-review-2011.html
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        56. Ancestry of pink disease (infantile acrodynia) identified as a risk factor for autism spectrum disorders. (Not in Taylor’s original list.)

        Correct citation: Shandley K, Austin DW. Ancestry of pink disease (infantile acrodynia) identified as a risk factor for autism spectrum disorders. J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2011;74(18):1185-94. doi: 10.1080/15287394.2011.590097.

        Debunked at

        http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/07/30/ancestry-of-pink-disease-infantile-acrodynia-identified-as-a-risk-factor-for-autism-spectrum-disorders/

        “This is, at best, a very strange paper. Consider these questions: 1) Why aren’t they reporting a high autism prevalence in the people who had very high mercury exposures and who showed signs of pink disease? If there is a genetic susceptibility, why isn’t it seen in those with the greatest exposures? 2) Why isn’t there a report of high autism prevalence in the children, just the grandchildren? My guess is that the response from some will be that the grandchildren received higher doses of mercury in vaccines than did their parents. Which again would beg the question of where is the high rate of autism in those exposed to the teething powders, especially those who developed pink disease.

        The conclusions of this paper have some major logical hurdles to overcome, to say the least. And this is even before the methods are addressed. For example, this all hinges on reports by the grandparents. Not on an actual prevalence measure of the descendants.”
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        57. Lasting neuropathological changes in rat brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal. (Original Taylor number = 54)

        Correct citation: Olczak M, Duszczyk M, Mierzejewski P, Wierzba-Bobrowicz T, Majewska MD. Lasting neuropathological changes in rat brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal. Folia Neuropathol. 2010;48(4):258-69.

        Rat study on thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines), concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines.

        Note: lead researcher M Dorota Majewska seems to have specialized in rat studies that show thimerosal damage.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        58. Persistent behavioral impairments and alterations of brain dopamine system after early postnatal administration of thimerosal in rats. (Not in Taylor’s original list.)

        Correct citation: Olczak M, Duszczyk M, Mierzejewski P, Meyza K, Majewska MD. Persistent behavioral impairments and alterations of brain dopamine system after early postnatal administration of thimerosal in rats. Behav Brain Res. 2011 Sep 30;223(1):107-18. doi: 10.1016/j.bbr.2011.04.026. Epub 2011 Apr 28.

        Rat study on thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines), concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines.

        Note: lead researcher M Dorota Majewska seems to have specialized in rat studies that show thimerosal damage.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        59. Risk Factors for Autistic Regression: Results of an Ambispective Cohort Study. (Original Taylor number = 56)

        Correct citation: Zhang Y, Xu Q, Liu J, Li SC, Xu X. Risk factors for autistic regression: results of an ambispective cohort study. J Child Neurol. 2012 Aug;27(8):975-81. doi: 10.1177/0883073811430163. Epub 2012 Jan 30.

        Cohort study on 170 autistic Chinese children. Study does not mention vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

      • caffeineandfairydust

        Ginger Taylor is an anti-vaccine activist and vice-president of a tiny splinter political party. She has compiled a list of papers (the count is currently 72) that she claims “show that vaccines can cause autism”.

        Taylor’s list of papers has been getting a lot of play, so a group of pro-science bloggers and writers reviewed the list in detail.

        No, the 72 papers do not show that vaccines can cause autism.
        The Papers:
        60. Adverse events following 12 and 18 month vaccinations: a population-based, self-controlled case series analysis. (Original Taylor number = 57.)

        Correct citation: Wilson K, Hawken S, Kwong JC, Deeks S, Crowcroft NS, Van Walraven C, Potter BK, Chakraborty P, Keelan J, Pluscauskas M, Manuel D. Adverse events following 12 and 18 month vaccinations: a population-based, self-controlled case series analysis. PLoS One. 2011;6(12):e27897. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0027897. Epub 2011 Dec 12.

        Study of adverse events, as measured by emergency room visits or hospitalizations after vaccine receipt in a cohort of 456,000 Canadian toddlers.

        “..one excess event for every 730 children vaccinated. The primary reason for increased events was statistically significant elevations in emergency room visits following all vaccinations. There were non-significant increases in hospital admissions. There were an additional 20 febrile seizures for every 100,000 vaccinated at 12 months.”
        An interesting paper that has some implications for better fever management of infants following vaccination

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        61. Administration of thimerosal to infant rats increases overflow of glutamate and aspartate in the prefrontal cortex: protective role of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate. (Original Taylor number = 58)

        Correct citation: Duszczyk-Budhathoki M, Olczak M, Lehner M, Majewska MD. Administration of thimerosal to infant rats increases overflow of glutamate and aspartate in the prefrontal cortex: protective role of dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate. Neurochem Res. 2012 Feb;37(2):436-47. doi: 10.1007/s11064-011-0630-z. Epub 2011 Oct 21.

        Rat study, thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines), concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines.

        Note: lead researcher M Dorota Majewska seems to have specialized in rat studies that show thimerosal damage.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        62. Neonatal Administration of Thimerosal Causes Persistent Changes in Mu Opioid Receptors in the Rat Brain (Original Taylor number = 59)

        Correct citation: Olczak M, Duszczyk M, Mierzejewski P, Bobrowicz T, Majewska MD. Neonatal administration of thimerosal causes persistent changes in mu opioid receptors in the rat brain. Neurochem Res. 2010 Nov;35(11):1840-7. doi: 10.1007/s11064-010-0250-z. Epub 2010 Aug 28.

        Rat study, thimerosal (no longer used in U.S. childhood vaccines except for some influenza vaccines), concentrations higher than formerly found in vaccines.

        Note: lead researcher M Dorota Majewska seems to have specialized in rat studies that show thimerosal damage.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        63. Unanswered Questions: A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury. (Original Taylor number=60)

        Correct citation: Holland M, Conte L, Krakow R, Colin L, Unanswered Questions: A Review of Compensated Cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury. Pace Environmental Law Review, vol. 28, no. 2, 2011

        This was a very poor-quality review in a student-run law journal, with substantial ethical and methodological flaws.Debunked here:

        May 10, 2011 http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/05/10/student-mags-and-altered-press-releases/
        May 11, 2011 http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/05/11/pace-study-confirms-autism-prevalence/
        May 11, 2011 http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/05/11/another-swing-for-the-fences-and-a-miss/
        May 16, 2011 http://www.wired.com/geekmom/2011/05/is-the-vaccine-injury-compensation-program-covering-up-an-autism-vaccine-link/
        May 2011 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/when-you-cant-win-on-science-invoke-the-law-2/
        May 20, 2011 http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/05/20/study-by-nyu-and-pace-another-failure-in-obtaining-ethical-approval/
        May 24, 2011 http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/05/24/anti-vaccine-warriors-vs-research-ethics/
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        64. Integrating experimental (in vitro and in vivo) neurotoxicity studies of low-dose thimerosal relevant to vaccines. (Not on Taylor’s original list)

        Correct citation: Dórea JG. Integrating experimental (in vitro and in vivo) neurotoxicity studies of low-dose thimerosal relevant to vaccines. Neurochem Res. 2011 Jun;36(6):927-38. doi: 10.1007/s11064-011-0427-0. Epub 2011 Feb 25.

        In vitro study, with a small inclusion of a rat study.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        65. Hepatitis B vaccine induces apoptotic death in Hepa1-6 cells (Original Taylor number = 55)

        Correct citation: Hamza H, Cao J, Li X, Li C, Zhu M, Zhao S. Hepatitis B vaccine induces apoptotic death in Hepa1-6 cells. Apoptosis. 2012 May;17(5):516-27. doi: 10.1007/s10495-011-0690-1.

        An in-vitro study of how mouse (murine) cells derived from a cancerous tumor react to being bathed in Hepatitis B vaccine. No mention of autism. No relevance to autism.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        66. Maternal thimerosal exposure results in aberrant cerebellar oxidative stress, thyroid hormone metabolism, and motor behavior in rat pups; sex- and strain-dependent effects. (Not in Taylor’s original list)

        Correct citation: Sulkowski ZL, Chen T, Midha S, Zavacki AM, Sajdel-Sulkowska EM. Maternal thimerosal exposure results in aberrant cerebellar oxidative stress, thyroid hormone metabolism, and motor behavior in rat pups; sex- and strain-dependent effects. Cerebellum. 2012 Jun;11(2):575-86. doi: 10.1007/s12311-011-0319-5.

        Rat study looking at thimerosal, which is no longer used in childhood vaccines in the U.S. (with the exception of some influenza vaccines). No mention of autism.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        67. The rise in autism and the role of age at diagnosis.(Not on Taylor’s original list)

        Correct citation: Hertz-Picciotto I, Delwiche L. The rise in autism and the role of age at diagnosis. Epidemiology. 2009 Jan;20(1):84-90. doi: 10.1097/EDE.0b013e3181902d15.

        “Autism incidence in California shows no sign yet of plateauing. Younger ages at diagnosis, differential migration, changes in diagnostic criteria, and inclusion of milder cases do not fully explain the observed increases.”

        Evidently, according to Taylor, that means that vaccine must account for the observed increases, while disregarding significant changes in demographic data, such as maternal and paternal age at first childbirth.

        It is curious that Taylor does not include the other 18 papers on autism in which Hertz-Picciotto has been a contributing author,. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=((Hertz-Picciotto%20I%5BAuthor%5D)%20AND%20(%222009%2F1%2F1%22%5BDate%20-%20Publication%5D%20%3A%20%223000%22%5BDate%20-%20Publication%5D))%20AND%20autism%5BMeSH%20Major%20Topic%5D

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        68. Slow CCL2-dependent translocation of biopersistent particles from muscle to brain (Not in Taylor’s previous list)

        Correct citation: Khan Z, Combadière C, Authier FJ, Itier V, Lux F, Exley C, Mahrouf-Yorgov M, Decrouy X, Moretto P, Tillement O, Gherardi RK, Cadusseau J. Slow CCL2-dependent translocation of biopersistent particles from muscle to brain. BMC Med. 2013 Apr 4;11:99. doi: 10.1186/1741-7015-11-99.

        This paper assumes that ‘Shoenfeld syndrome” or “Autoimmune (Auto-inflammatory) Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants” (ASIA) is a real condition, not an artifact found by one group of researchers. It has not yet been verified. At http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/08/09/antivaccinationists-against-the-hpv-vaccine-round-5000/, the blogger (a cancer researcher and surgeon) writes:

        ….an entity called ASIA (Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants). From what I’ve been able to tell, ASIA is basically a made-up syndrome that isn’t generally accepted….Even more dubious are the clinical criteria, four major and four minor, that are used to “diagnose” ASIA. The idea is that either two major criteria or one major and two minor criteria are required for a diagnosis of ASIA. Out of curiosity, I went back to what appears to be the original article in which ASIA was defined by Yehuda Shoenfeld, who is known for testifying for “vaccine injury” victims and running a journal sympathetic to antivaccine views, even publishing works by quacks like Mark and David Geier. The “syndrome” appears to have been made up of whole cloth based on unfounded assumptions.
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        69. Thimerosal and autism? A plausible hypothesis that should not be dismissed. (Not in Taylor’s previous list)

        Correct citation: Blaxill MF, Redwood L, Bernard S. Thimerosal and autism? A plausible hypothesis that should not be dismissed. Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(5):788-94.

        Note that this paper is from 2004. Since that time, (1) Thimerosal has been removed from all pediatric vaccines, with the exception of some flu vaccines (2) Autism has continued to rise (3)The concerns about thimerosal have been addressed with epidemiological studies, and dismissed. (4) The concerns about thimerosal have been given a thorough airing in the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program legal hearings (Autism Omnibus) and have been found to be baseless. For example

        September 13 2010 Price CS et al., Prenatal and Infant Exposure to Thimerosal From Vaccines and Immunoglobulins and Risk of Autism
        February 26 2013http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2013/02/26/no-the-autism-prevalence-in-california-did-not-go-down-after-removing-thimerosal-from-vaccines/
        April 2013 Vaccine Safety: Examine the Evidence
        March 12, 2010 Meade v. HHS
        March 12, 2010 King v. HHS
        March 12, 2010 Dwyer v. HHS
        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        70.Autism Spectrum Disorders in Relation to Distribution of Hazardous Air Pollutants in the SF Bay Area (Not in Taylor’s previous list)

        Correct citation: Windham GC, Zhang L, Gunier R, Croen LA, Grether JK. Autism spectrum disorders in relation to distribution of hazardous air pollutants in the san francisco bay area. Environ Health Perspect. 2006 Sep;114(9):1438-44.

        This and other environmental studies were discussed at Association Between Autism and Environmental Mercury Exposure Disappears Once Population Density is Controlled for

        My primary criticism of these types of studies is that they are attempting to find a cause for an epidemiological phenomenon that could very well not require an environmental explanation. That is, administrative data (special education data in particular) is not equipped to tell us if there are real differences in the prevalence of autism from one region to the next. No screening has ever demonstrated that substantial differences in administrative prevalence between regions are not simply diagnostic differences.
        This study does not address vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        71. Inflammatory Responses to Trivalent Influenza Virus Vaccine Among Pregnant Women (Not in Taylor’s previous list.)

        Correct citation: Christian LM, Iams JD, Porter K, Glaser R. Inflammatory responses to trivalent influenza virus vaccine among pregnant women. Vaccine. 2011 Nov 8;29(48):8982-7. doi: 10.1016/j.vaccine.2011.09.039. Epub 2011 Sep 22.

        Partial conclusions: “The inflammatory response elicited by vaccination is substantially milder and more transient than seen in infectious illness, arguing for the clinical value of vaccination. However, further research is needed to confirm that the mild inflammatory response elicited by vaccination is benign in pregnancy.”

        Two subsequent studies, listed below, have confirmed the safety of trivalent influenza virus vaccines for pregnant women and the children whose mothers were vaccinated during pregnancy.

        Nordin JD, Kharbanda EO, Benitez GV, Nichol K, Lipkind H, Naleway A, Lee GM, Hambidge S, Shi W, Olsen A. Maternal safety of trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine in pregnant women. Obstet Gynecol. 2013 Mar;121(3):519-25. doi: 10.1097/AOG.0b013e3182831b83.
        Conlin AM, Bukowinski AT, Sevick CJ, DeScisciolo C, Crum-Cianflone NF. Safety of the pandemic H1N1 influenza vaccine among pregnant U.S. military women and their newborns. Obstet Gynecol. 2013 Mar;121(3):511-8. doi: 10.1097/AOG.0b013e318280d64e.
        None of the 3 studies cited above mention autism.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

        72.&Elevated maternal C-reactive protein and autism in a national birth cohort. Not in Taylor’s previous list.)

        Correct citation: Brown AS, Sourander A, Hinkka-Yli-Salomäki S, McKeague IW, Sundvall J, Surcel HM. Elevated maternal C-reactive protein and autism in a national birth cohort. Mol Psychiatry. 2013 Jan 22. doi: 10.1038/mp.2012.197. [Epub ahead of print]

        This study does not address vaccines.

        Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

  • Matt Arnold

    • caffeineandfairydust

      I’m a fan of Bill, but he has a really bad habit of gaining a surface knowledge of topics and then running to the bank with them.
      Bill Maher has been getting a lot of heat lately and seems to be getting a bit defensive. He was particularly stung by Michael Shermer’s open letter in which Dr. Shermer thought it necessary to give Maher a basic lesson in germ theory.

      Unfortunately, Maher has responded not by thoughtfully engaging his critics, but with a rambling defensive diatribe in which he simultaneously protests the criticism pointed his way while repeating and amplifying the pseudoscientific nonsense that garnered criticism in the first place.

      Maher is willing to admit that he is not an expert, but then he follows this statement with a long post in which he feels free to express his views on vaccines and medicine in general. He seems to be saying – I am not an expert, so don’t hold me accountable for anything I say, but I am going to say it anyway.

      Propaganda and Conspiracy my friend.

  • Katharina

    Thanks for a the wake up call! I am a mother of three amazing boys. My mother-in-law is a homeopath and very anti vaccine, and my husband is unfortunately confused and very influenced by her. Our children are not vaccinated. They are now 3, 7 and 8 years old. We’ve both been affected by all the anti vaccine propaganda, that also here in Norway, gets more and more parents to opt out of vaccine. Sorry I’ve been so naive! Luckily, I have awakened and now booked time to vaccinate all three children – tomorrow.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      Good for you Katharina!

      • Michelle

        I would hope Catherina is being sarcastic. And wouldn’t base such a big decision on a “bloggers” opinion. Don’t give yourself too much credit here. But if she is actually going to do that- I hope you do not sleep tonight!

        • caffeineandfairydust

          You are very concerned about my sleep, don’t worry – I sleep just fine. That’s the benefit from having hard, scientific medical facts set your conscious at ease.

      • Katharina

        I am not basing my decision on one blogger, but on data and information from several reliable sources, processed over several years – and common sense. Maybe I was a little bombastic in the way I expressed myself on earlier … This was just final straw 🙂

        • caffeineandfairydust

          Katharina – do not let anyone bully you – they will be mean and relentless, just because you do not see things their way.

  • Tami Joubert

    I have a friend whose child is autistic and she firmly believes that the vaccinations he received did not cause his autism. She said she knew in her heart that he was slightly different, but then placed the blame on the MMR around 18 months. Now she will admit that she is glad he had his vacs. It really is up to each parent, but do the research to make an informed decision.

    Plus, reading all these comments was more entertaining that watching the Kardashians. 🙂

  • Alison

    This was such an interesting article . I am one of those ‘ stuck between a rock and a hard place ‘ moms . I give my kids the measles jab separately and waited till they were bigger ……. I have met a woman who’s child died after vaccination and one who’s child became completely mentally and physically handicapped …… Even so , I see the dangers of not vaccinating too …… It’s a tough one as we all want to do the best to protect our kids .
    I just wish people would be less aggressive about it and stop pointing fingers ……
    Having kids is the hardest thing in the world , so many dangers and decisions to make ……… Let’s put our knowledge together and learn from each other !!!

  • marcelle76

    I’m sorry, but I will not set my child on fire to keep yours warm!

    You need to take responsibility for your child’s health, just as I do for mine (and injecting your child with a vaccine and then sitting back blaming everyone else, does not constitute responsibility)

    Vaccinated children also pass on disease and often get the very diseases they have been vaccinated against.

    You are welcome to put your trust where you see fit. Just as I will use my Constitutional God given right to make my own choices, responsibly.

    • caffeineandfairydust

      “I’m sorry, but I will not set my child on fire to keep yours warm!” – Does that come in the Anti-Vaxxers pamphlet? So many of you are using that expression, it is quite amusing. And ridiculous.

      “Vaccinated children also pass on disease and often get the very diseases they have been vaccinated against.” When you are vaccinated against – let’s say measles – and you develope the rash a couple of days later, you are not contagious. DO you know how vaccines work? Do you understand how your immune system works? Obviously not.

      Unfortunately your “responsible” choices are anything but. It is really sad that you are that sucked in to non medical, pseudoscience and propeganda, that you cannot see the dangers of your choices and how it affects everyone, not just your precious child.

  • Chris Geden

    Great post. Asking people to do research is all very well but the problem is most people don’t know how to do proper research. It would be great if you also did a post on how to do proper research that isn’t biased and fallacious, so that people can figure it out for themselves.

  • F S

    I’d love to see how much vaccination numbers change once something like polio pop’s it’s head up again in north america!

    Polio was last seen in North America in the mid 90’s, so not that long ago! It’s still out there! Measles was pretty much extinguished as well at that time. Shouldn’t be too much longer before polio makes its way here from Africa or Asia!

    Last case of small pox was in 1978! Thanks to vaccination this disease was completely eliminated from the planet!! Ask someone who grew up in the 60’s or before how many people they know who were physicially disabled or died from these 2 diseases! So thankful we dont have to worry about these things anymore.. well used to anyway…

  • Tom

    Dr. William Thompson, chief Scientist at the cdc came out and admitted that the cdc suppressed information about the causal link between the mmr vaccine and autism. he is recorded on audio admitting all this in the film vaxxed. this is true. He invoked whistleblower status. not all vaccines cause autism, but there there are countless stories in which a child gets vaccinated, and immediately after, breaks out in a rash, fever, diarrhea, and then literally within days, regresses into an autistic state and is never the same again. search hashtag #hearthiswell for countless first hand of first hand accounts. if the cdc lied and their chief scientist admitted it, then there is no reason to trust the studies that “debunk” it. the cdc can’t be trusted.

  • Jess

    You can die from measles even once having the vaccine. The out break in Disney, as they proved were mostly all vaccinated. No it’s not a direct link to autism. That is stupid. But a leaky gut and leaky brain can cause autism and or some neurological disorder. Also, while being vaccinated let’s not forget you are also a silent carrier. There is also stupidly and scarily enough a fund for vaccine injured children? WTF. If that is not a little red flag then no idea. There is also NO one you can sue, as the manufacturers have been granted immunity from the supreme courts. Disgusting. Oh and also. Vaccine does not mean you are immune. Just in case people forget.

    No one is pro vaccine or anti vaccine – parents are pro kid. Plus, it also depends on your environment and living conditions. No, not all the vaccines are needed. But please oh please refrain from making pro kid parents feel shit about actually doing research and actually not following blindly like a sheep. That’s just rude of you.

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